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ninazino ([personal profile] ninazino) wrote2016-10-19 07:00 am

Работает с документами (C)

Помните мем президент работает с документами?

Мне он вспомнился в связи с новым почти уже мемом: Хиллари готовится к дебатам. Уж так готовится, так готовится, что казалось бы должна выступать блестяще, а оно -- так себе. Интересно, к чему она будет "готовиться" после сегодняшних (последних) дебатов?

Это мой эйджизм бурчит, не нравится мне, что старики соревнуются за президентство. Я знаю, знаю: Рейган и все такое. Но, между прлчим, говорят, что Альцгеймер у него начался уже во время второго срока. Ранняя стадия, страну как-то пронесло, но все равно стремно.

Я в этот раз ни за что бы не стала за Хилю голосовать, если бы не Трамп.

[identity profile] tandem-bike.livejournal.com 2016-10-20 08:34 pm (UTC)(link)
we'll see but.. unlikely. as to his "rigged election" stuff - there is lots of outrage in response.


in the remaining time only a miracle can save his candidacy...

[identity profile] daily-madness.livejournal.com 2016-10-20 08:44 pm (UTC)(link)
as to his "rigged election" stuff - there is lots of outrage in response
He played the media again - they are tricked into covering the topic. Outrage is not important. In a few days there will be not a single person who hasn't heard about the rigging. He is a genius. ))

NO...

[identity profile] tandem-bike.livejournal.com 2016-10-20 08:55 pm (UTC)(link)
he is an idiot. sorry.

HE HAD A CHANCE. not a small one.

he blew it by being Bozhena Rynska, except she .. is not running for office and he is. his huge mistakes included

1. "the wall". for which Mexico would pay? yeah, right. instead he should have talked about VIRTUAL WALL - rigging up national guard and border patrol to make the southern border if not impernetrable then not as ridiculous as it is now. in El Paso, it is O'Henry time - like 100 years plus ago, people cross backa nd forth and nobody cares. drugs cross too. big money is payed out - to look the other way.
this is a topic of crucial importance - next 911 will likely come from Mexico.

2. muslims and "not letting them in", then a lame self-correction. that opened a cesspool cover. we cannot "not let muslims in". instead he should have do as his advisers said and he did not listen - talk about the "end of the land of opportunity" and the need to shut the door on immigration, too, leaving a very tight quota on refugees and professionals.

3. legalization/deportation - you cannot deport 13 million people. they need to be legalized. possibly with obligatory public service as payment. he was told that too, many times. but "deport" appeals to.. ahem, some of us deplorables. who are not thinking straight. you probably realize how impossible it is to deport even a known felon. US authorities tried four times to deport that terror perp fellow who got murdered. Sudan or whatever would not take him. wonder why.

4. personal attacks. that sitting-duck pakistani "father of hero" crap should have been left ignored. he did much worse by being reactive. i understand, am reactive myself, to my own detriment, but i am not running for office...

5. women. he had to ADMIT and apologize publicly and in a commercial. he chose to deny it.

6. hispanics.... that judge is indeed probably not the best to judge Trump, but the way T. phrased it was murderous - he killed a lot of his potential hispanic base...

there is mmore but i don't have time.

[identity profile] daily-madness.livejournal.com 2016-10-20 09:32 pm (UTC)(link)
1. Big advantage for Trump
2. Nothing wrong with that
3. Bill Clinton deported 12 million. Nothing wrong with that. Honest polls show big support for this position.
4. Wasn't needed, but will not be important at the end.
5. He did. Right at the beginning of the second debate. In front of 100 million.

[identity profile] tandem-bike.livejournal.com 2016-10-20 09:44 pm (UTC)(link)
(shrugging)

disagree. on 1 2 3 5, his apology was not loud or clear enough.

4.. maybe would have been small, as 6. hispanics.

but 7. taxes finished him off.

[identity profile] tandem-bike.livejournal.com 2016-10-20 09:03 pm (UTC)(link)
one last thing - his TAX revelation.
most citizens don't care about WHY he did not pay. they hear selectively - HE DID NOT PAY TAXES FOR @) YEARS.

AND I PAY THROUGH THE NOSE> AND HE OWNS ( bblah blah blah) AND I OWN THIS DOGHOUSE AND AN OLD CAR.
Edited 2016-10-20 21:04 (UTC)

[identity profile] daily-madness.livejournal.com 2016-10-20 09:25 pm (UTC)(link)
"HE DID NOT PAY TAXES FOR @) YEARS" - это вранье, но пункт прессе - многие будут так думать.

[identity profile] daily-madness.livejournal.com 2016-10-20 09:33 pm (UTC)(link)
It was probably unavoidable.

[identity profile] tandem-bike.livejournal.com 2016-10-20 09:43 pm (UTC)(link)
that's why he should have released his returns EARLY and with a smashing campaign of explanations - hey guys, i nearly went bankrupt, but teh system we have for netrepreneurs turned me around, thanks to the tax loophole, and see how many jobs i created due to this.

instead he got cagey, and when it did come out it was a .. "razryv pukanov" chez Apple Jane.

[identity profile] daily-madness.livejournal.com 2016-10-20 10:59 pm (UTC)(link)
hey guys, i nearly went bankrupt, but teh system we have for netrepreneurs turned me around
Exactly what he does for 18 years. It's all in the "The Art of the Comeback". He said exactly that many times during the campaign.

thanks to the tax loophole, and see how many jobs i created due to this
He needed no loopholes for that, and forward carrying of losses is NOT a loophole. It perfectly normal and reasonable, and is present in literally every tax code on the planet. Million taxpayers in US do that every single year.

why he should have released his returns EARLY
It doesn't matter, liberal press will attack in every case. It will fabricate something in every case. They will fabricate something FROM HIS RETURNS.

[identity profile] tandem-bike.livejournal.com 2016-10-20 11:26 pm (UTC)(link)
HE DID NOT SAY IT WELL.


that is actually a bad omen for a future pres. he did nto manage to communicate. he fumbled and diverged into personal attacks and silliness...


and yes, he cannot win partly because the media are never on his side. and they manipulate people's brains expertly.

[identity profile] daily-madness.livejournal.com 2016-10-20 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Given that 70% do not trust the media anymore - I wouldn't say they do it perfectly.

[identity profile] tandem-bike.livejournal.com 2016-10-20 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
i actually believe that 30% don't. media have a subliminal effect. ALAS> ALAS>