ninazino: (FM)
ninazino ([personal profile] ninazino) wrote2016-07-21 11:59 am

O-o-o, это пестня! Вчерашнее интервью Трампа про внешнюю политику

Про НАТО и Турцию особенно:

Про НАТО:
    If we cannot be properly reimbursed for the tremendous cost of our military protecting other countries, and in many cases the countries I’m talking about are extremely rich. Then if we cannot make a deal, which I believe we will be able to, and which I would prefer being able to, but if we cannot make a deal, I would like you to say, I would prefer being able to, some people, the one thing they took out of your last story, you know, some people, the fools and the haters, they said, “Oh, Trump doesn’t want to protect you.” I would prefer that we be able to continue, but if we are not going to be reasonably reimbursed for the tremendous cost of protecting these massive nations with tremendous wealth — you have the tape going on?
    SANGER: We do.

    HABERMAN: We both do.

    TRUMP: With massive wealth. Massive wealth. We’re talking about countries that are doing very well. Then yes, I would be absolutely prepared to tell those countries, “Congratulations, you will be defending yourself.”


Про Турцию:
    I do give great credit to him for turning it around. You know, the first hour, it seemed like it was over. Then all of a sudden, and the amazing thing is the one that won that was the people. They came out on the streets, and the army types didn’t want to drive over them like they did in Tiananmen Square when they sort of drived them over, and that was the end of that. Right? People said, I’m not going to drive over people. The people came out of their homes, and they were not in favor of what the military was doing. So that was quite impressive from the standpoint of existing government. I will say this: I think Turkey can do a lot against ISIS, and I would hope that if I’m dealing with them, they will do much more about ISIS.
    ...
    SANGER: You said that they could be much more helpful with ISIS. I’m sure perhaps they can. The big difference they’ve had is that we’ve been supporting Kurdish forces that have been very effective ——

    TRUMP: I’m a fan of the Kurds, you understand.

    SANGER: But Erdogan is not. Tell us how you would deal with that?

    TRUMP: Well, it would be ideal if we could get them all together. And that would be a possibility. But I’m a big fan of the Kurdish forces. At the same time, I think we have a potentially — we could have a potentially very successful relationship with Turkey. And it would be really wonderful if we could put them somehow both together.
    SANGER: And what’s your diplomatic plan for doing that?

    TRUMP: Meetings. If I ever have the opportunity to do it, meaning if I win, we will have meetings, we will have meetings very early on.

[identity profile] ivan-1-dyrak.livejournal.com 2016-07-21 05:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Кончится тем, что ты за него проголосуешь.

[identity profile] ninazino.livejournal.com 2016-07-21 05:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Нет, этого не будет. Я собираюсь за либертарианцев -- в нашем штате это можно себе позволить, но если поллы покажут близкие цифры, то побегу, как сказал Redbut, голосовать за Клинтон.

На данный момент -- имеют место только эти два варианта. Трамп в их число не входит.

[identity profile] ivan-1-dyrak.livejournal.com 2016-07-21 05:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Never Say Never Again

[identity profile] sab123.livejournal.com 2016-07-21 06:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Так ить он прав. Европа уже давно должна сама платить за свою защиту.

[identity profile] profpr.livejournal.com 2016-07-21 07:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Funny, I just realized that he talks like Sarah Palin.

[identity profile] ninazino.livejournal.com 2016-07-21 08:47 pm (UTC)(link)
А с ISIS мы будем одни воевать?

[identity profile] sab123.livejournal.com 2016-07-21 08:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Разве Европа в этом занятии сколько-нибудь заметно помогает? Вообще был прощелкан клювом замечательно удобный момент, чтобы перенести американские военные базы из Германии в Ирак. И не было бы никакого исиса вообще.

The people came out of their homes...

[identity profile] van bart (from livejournal.com) 2016-07-21 10:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Don't know how to embed from Facebook properly - maybe you can help:

https://www.facebook.com/roj24news/videos/vb.1556915057913282/1746052388999547/?type=3
Edited 2016-07-21 22:49 (UTC)

[identity profile] signamax.livejournal.com 2016-07-22 01:22 am (UTC)(link)
я слышал мнение что если курдам дать государство то у исиса не будет шансов в регионе

[identity profile] ninazino.livejournal.com 2016-07-22 02:08 am (UTC)(link)
А что по этому поводу имеет сказать Эрдоган?:)

[identity profile] signamax.livejournal.com 2016-07-22 02:12 am (UTC)(link)
он очевидным образом не поддерживает эту идею